Cancellation in car trunk [message #14794] |
Mon, 22 November 2004 05:44 |
Adrian Mack
Messages: 568 Registered: May 2009
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General thinking would say that you cant get cancellation at subbass frequencies in the trunk of a car because reflections or multiple subs cant really sum to 180 degrees apart (or between 135deg and 225deg to be destructive). However some positions do result in what sounds like cancellation, such as having theh subbox face right up towards the front wall of the trunk with the drivers firing into the wall. However it doesnt seem that phase cancellation could be the source for this issue - anyone know what could cause this in the trunk?
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Re: Cancellation in car trunk [message #14795 is a reply to message #14794] |
Mon, 22 November 2004 06:56 |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18791 Registered: January 2001
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Hi Adrian, If you're using a pair of subs, you might get an oscilloscope and see if the signals sent to the two are phased. I used to enjoy using the left and right channels to generate Lissajou patterns and I was surprised how many recordings had bass with content phased more than 90o between channels. If your signals are already phased 135o then the distances to create a 180o shift are smaller. And in a small space, two sound sources would be tightly coupled and highly combinative. Wayne
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Re: Cancellation in car trunk [message #14796 is a reply to message #14795] |
Mon, 22 November 2004 07:41 |
Adrian Mack
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Hi Wayne That makes sense, good point. Crossover filters etc also add additional phase shift, so I'd guess these would also mean distances to create destructive phase shifts are smaller. Adrian
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