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Kleinhorn [message #14737]

Sat, 09 October 2004 12:19

inktomi
Messages: 1
Registered: May 2009

Esquire

These speaks look awesome but they have me scratching my head. Why make such a large cabinet for such a small driver? Granted, it should improve bass but what can you do with such a small cone? Why not use a bigger woofer for the bass portion, and have a the front facing box be a dedicated mid?

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Re: Kleinhorn [message #14738 is a reply to message #14737]

Sat, 09 October 2004 15:42

Bill Fitzmaurice
Messages: 335
Registered: May 2009

Grand Master

The idea is to use a single high SPL low Qts wide range driver, and one way to get good bass out of it is with the large horn. I agree with you that it's too large, unattractive, and there are better ways to go about it. If Nelson had asked me to come up with a design for him it wouldn't look like this, but he didn't.

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The emperor has no cloths [message #14739 is a reply to message #14737]

Sat, 09 October 2004 19:58

colinhester
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Registered: May 2009
Location: NE Arkansas

Illuminati (3rd Degree)

Thank goodnees some finally asked this question. I have wondered this as well. Yeah, they look cool, but......

http://www.passdiy.com/speakers.htm

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Perhaps because... [message #14740 is a reply to message #14737]

Sun, 10 October 2004 08:19

wunhuanglo
Messages: 912
Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (2nd Degree)

after a long career in audio, in a world filled with rectangular boxes, it was fun.

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Because... [message #14741 is a reply to message #14737]

Sun, 10 October 2004 22:22

Mike.e
Messages: 471
Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (1st Degree)

According to some,

Simplicity is better than Complexity!

Xovers,Drivers,Everything causes distortion so why not use 1 driver with no xover! seems like an ideal plan to some!

-but not to me ;-)
Even a 2way would be much more practical and easier to build!

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However... [message #14742 is a reply to message #14737]

Tue, 12 October 2004 19:35

GarMan
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Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (2nd Degree)

while it may lack practicality on most home use, it does have its merit as an academic excerise.

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Re: Perhaps because... [message #14743 is a reply to message #14740]

Fri, 15 October 2004 16:15

colinhester
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Registered: May 2009
Location: NE Arkansas

Illuminati (3rd Degree)

Damn, I forgot about the fun factor.....Colin

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J-Lo Re: Kleinhorn [message #14746 is a reply to message #14738]

Mon, 18 October 2004 01:06

lon
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Registered: May 2009

Illuminati (2nd Degree)

The J-Lo (which you are no doubt familiar with) would be
easier to build but still pretty unwieldy.

What do you think of that one?

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Re: J-Lo Re: Kleinhorn [message #14747 is a reply to message #14746]

Mon, 18 October 2004 06:58

Bill Fitzmaurice
Messages: 335
Registered: May 2009

Grand Master

Actually I'm not familiar with it.

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OK- now I know the one [message #14748 is a reply to message #14747]

Tue, 19 October 2004 06:19

Bill Fitzmaurice
Messages: 335
Registered: May 2009

Grand Master

I didn't know the name of it but came across it in AudioXpress. I don't think that box works all that well, for a variety of reasons, the main one being that it isn't size effective. You can get a lot better extension and SPL from a far smaller package. In the case of both of these horns from Pass Labs they're using horn geometries and theories that were well attuned to 1940s vintage large drivers with modern small wide range drivers and I don't think that it works all that well.

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