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ART DI/O mods? [message #14044] Mon, 08 December 2003 23:53 Go to next message
Bill Martinelli is currently offline  Bill Martinelli
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This single tube dac is great but I would like to take some of the gain out of it. It's just really a hot signal. Any one have any mods for the home workbench?

Bill

Re: ART DI/O mods? [message #14045 is a reply to message #14044] Wed, 10 December 2003 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Is this an Art Audio product? What features does this unit have, or is it purely an interface?

I'm kind of surprised Dave didn't reply, because I think this is one of his things. But maybe not.


Re: ART DI/O mods? [message #14046 is a reply to message #14045] Fri, 12 December 2003 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Martinelli is currently offline  Bill Martinelli
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Hi Wayne,

It's a small single tube DAC. You can take the digital signal from any crappy sounding cd player and just use it as a transport. Then the DAC sends analogue signal into your preamp. I've heard better transports and dac before but the increase in performance was small and they cost literally thousand's. The DI/O is around a hundred bucks.

Anyway the problem if it has one is that it's suited for balanced line and the signal is pretty hot. I'm more than happy to take it apart and replace some parts. I'm just not the guy to re-engineer the thing! Pick one up, they're cheap, you'll love it.

Bill

Re: ART DI/O mods? [message #14047 is a reply to message #14046] Sat, 13 December 2003 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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The simplest D/A convertors are just a bank of resistors, and this method works pretty well, actually. A parallel set of digital signals is sent from the buss at periodic intervals, the sampling rate. All lines from the most-significant bit down to the least-significant bit are tied to a common point through resistors and, voila! The result is an analog signal. This is then amplified, and from what you're telling me, this is done by a small signal triode in your player.

What brand is your interface or kit? What I mean is, who provided it? Do you send off your existing CD player for modification? Or do they sell the interface outright? Do you buy the CD player with the summing tube already installed, as if it were made that way from the OEM?


Re: ART DI/O mods? [message #14048 is a reply to message #14047] Sat, 13 December 2003 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Martinelli is currently offline  Bill Martinelli
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Hi Wayne,

I just copied the info from the ART website. You can find these little guys at almost any music store. Local or online. They do a great job compared to most things I've listened too, and for the cost of this unit there isn't anything that competes.

All you need a a CD player that has a digital output (coax only) Plug the coax into the dac, then plug the right and left output from the dac into your preamp or receiver. Now your cd player is just a transport and the DI/O is doing all the work.

Some how me putting together a bank of resisters isnt going t6o sound as good or be as cost effective in the end!

Bill


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Re: ART DI/O mods? [message #14049 is a reply to message #14048] Sat, 13 December 2003 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Gotcha - Thanks for the "heads up." I didn't know if this was something you purchased as a stand alone unit, or if you sent your player in to someone for modification. Thanks for lettin' me know!


Re: ART DI/O mods? [message #14050 is a reply to message #14048] Wed, 17 December 2003 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brianjones is currently offline  brianjones
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I don't have a pre-amp, could I hook it up directly to my power amp?

Re: ART DI/O mods? [message #14051 is a reply to message #14050] Wed, 17 December 2003 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Martinelli is currently offline  Bill Martinelli
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Sorry but not even a remote chance the signal is very strong. If your cd player has a variable output it would work. I think you would be better off with a two channel 100k pot after the DI/O. A stepped attenuator would be very nice. There is a lot of signal and any form of passive preamp would do the trick.

ART DI/O mods FAQ [message #14052 is a reply to message #14044] Thu, 18 December 2003 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne1 is currently offline  Wayne1
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Craig Fraser has had a site with lots of different mods listed for a couple of years now.

I have been modding this unit for about that long.

There are lots of things you can do to improve the sound of it.

Check out Craig's site and if you have any questions drop me an e-mail


What's the latest on power supplies? [message #14053 is a reply to message #14052] Thu, 18 December 2003 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jim D. is currently offline  Jim D.
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I have a couple of highly modded ART DIOs. What's the latest for PS upgrades (DIY of course) after the Stancore walwart?

Thanks,
Jim D.

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