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Hey, it's your money. [message #1327 is a reply to message #1318] Tue, 22 February 2005 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dean Kukral is currently offline  Dean Kukral
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1) Hey, it's your money.

2) The only reason I can see for $100/foot cables is to impress your date so that you can get her (or him) into the sack. I am a happily married 62-year-old, so I'll spend my money on something else.

3) I strongly suspect (I have the same right to pontificate as the cable manufacturers and the hacks who depend on their advertising revenue) that if you move your sofa six inches to a side, it will have more audible effect than changing from the RS cheapie cables. That is why spending a lot of money on cables is sort of silly.

4) The speaker (including crossover, etc.) is the place where subjectivity, objectivity, and dollars coalesce into the most variable and productive element in terms of final sound. (What if you build a Pi7 out of mdf vs plywood.)

5) Certainly there must be measurable differences between the sound from two different cables, given a sensitive enough instrument and reproduction system. "Can anyone hear the difference?" is another question. I tend to agree that if you think you can, that is good enough. (Wear your copper bracelet and sleep on your magnetic bed if you think it helps your arthritis. I think that glucosamine sufate helps mine.)

If you suffer from painful osteoarthritis and have not tried glucosamine sulfate, you should! You can get it cheap at Sam's or WalMart.

Re: Well, here is the way I see it... [message #1328 is a reply to message #1325] Tue, 22 February 2005 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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True; he was one of a kind.
Where we differ is; I believe there is a reference standard and that if you try and relax it will manifest itself. Your assuming the placebo effect will present allways under all circumstances. But that is what profficiency means; the ability to transcend artificial constructs through study and attention to detail. Otherwise there would be no proffessional class in any endeavor; they would all be slaves to the placebo effect.
Guys who practice cooking until they develope their pallette don't fall for apprentice mistakes; they recognise excellence in other cooks and they know what tastes good.
Thats how Thurman got good; catching Ron Guidry and Catfish Hunter.
I have beaten this topic to death; I am getting sick of hearing myself; so you'll have to excuse me but there are many threads dealing with this on ART.
Good discussions with bright people. Including yourself now.

Re: Hey, it's your money. [message #1329 is a reply to message #1327] Tue, 22 February 2005 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Hey; my stereo never got me into anyone's sack? Am I doing something wrong? I know what helps my Artheritis; and maybe someday it will be legal.

Re: Hey, it's your money. [message #1330 is a reply to message #1329] Tue, 22 February 2005 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GarMan is currently offline  GarMan
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Maybe you need to upgrade you miniature 9-pins to some full sized 211 tubes. That should impress the ladies.

Re: Hey, it's your money. [message #1331 is a reply to message #1330] Tue, 22 February 2005 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Ha;I didn't know you HAD a sense of humor G. I'm more like a Mos-Fet.

Re: Hey, it's your money. [message #1332 is a reply to message #1327] Tue, 22 February 2005 18:33 Go to previous message
Mr Vinyl is currently offline  Mr Vinyl
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1) Hey, it's your money.

True

2) The only reason I can see for $100/foot cables is to impress your date so that you can get her (or him) into the sack. I am a happily married 62-year-old, so I'll spend my money on something else.

What kind of women did you date?? I'm a happily married 44 year old.

3) I strongly suspect (I have the same right to pontificate as the cable manufacturers and the hacks who depend on their advertising revenue) that if you move your sofa six inches to a side, it will have more audible effect than changing from the RS cheapie cables. That is why spending a lot of money on cables is sort of silly.

Moving my couch over 6" would effect imaging and bass response probably. Two of the very things that I find good cables have an effect on. But I see you point.

4) The speaker (including crossover, etc.) is the place where subjectivity, objectivity, and dollars coalesce into the most variable and productive element in terms of final sound. (What if you build a Pi7 out of mdf vs plywood.)

This we are in agreement on. I also believe it is the speakers that make the most difference in final sound. Second I would pick the phono cartridge if you listen to vinyl.

5) Certainly there must be measurable differences between the sound from two different cables, given a sensitive enough instrument and reproduction system. "Can anyone hear the difference?" is another question. I tend to agree that if you think you can, that is good enough. (Wear your copper bracelet and sleep on your magnetic bed if you think it helps your arthritis. I think that glucosamine sufate helps mine.)

Sorry the only magic power source is the pyramid with added metaphysical crystals. If you wear one on your head you won't believe the added depth and transparency of the sound stage. It will also help your arthritis (this is just a joke. See smiley face?)

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