Cables??? [message #1301] |
Sun, 20 February 2005 07:04 |
Manualblock
Messages: 4973 Registered: May 2009
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Anything goes as long as it is audio and honest. You got cables we got forum's. How about a connections forum dealing with all types of audio connectors and methods; including discussions of DIY/grounding/shielding materials maintenence. Mounting connectors maybe. Share your ideas here; what are you thinking? What would you like to see? What aspects of cable discussions are of interest to you?
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Here's what the vinyl guy has in mind.... [message #1307 is a reply to message #1301] |
Sun, 20 February 2005 17:19 |
Mr Vinyl
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Hi, As you know I am new here so don't really feel like it's my place to tell you what I want but since you asked here goes (keeping in mind I am fresh from the Audio Asylum): I don't know how the other posters here feel, be that as it may, I believe there are audible differences in speaker cable and interconnect cables. IMO these differences can be significant. Not great but significant. As AA has a separate area for this kind of discussion I would like to see one here. However too many different areas can be confusing. I think AA has gone to far with separate areas for too many things. So I will leave it to you. Don't know how many people here feel there is a audible difference, and if they do whether or not they feel it justify's another discussion area. As far as connectors etc goes. That would all be part of the "cable" discussion area. Thanks for listening. Mr Vinyl
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Re:The problem isn't the cable industry ....... [message #1311 is a reply to message #1308] |
Mon, 21 February 2005 03:31 |
BillEpstein
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.....it's the shmucks that pay $1,000 a foot for cable. I've auditioned best-selling speaker cables and IC's: Coincident, AudioQuest, Mapleshade, Home Grown, DH Labs, Straightwire, etc. and made the DIY "giant-killers" made from Cat 5e Belden 89259 and Vampire CCC magnet wire.
As MB says, there are differences. And as Mr. Vinyl says, sometimes the differences are significant. However, $8/50 ft. Royal Cable speaker wire trounces all the above and my ca. 1986 Straightwire LSI IC's are clearer, cleaner and more musical than any of the above.
The Royal Cable is high quality copper 14 ga. and the Straightwire simply shielded copper, well-terminated.
The latest audiophile cables with 35 volt battery power supplies are the zenith of industry greed and cyncicism. Are cheap caps-in-a-box and batteries for "electro-magnetic shielding" design breakthroughs that merit compensation for vast R&D expenditures? Or are they the result of wee hours brainstorming for just another bright, shiny toy that can be marketed at 100 times production cost?
And then there's the unblinking acceptance of whatever idea du jour is repeated more than once on these "cable forums". And if an industry figure opines positively on some magic it instantly becomes an immutable physical law. "Copper is good; silver is good; silver-coated copper is bad". "Solid sounds better than stranded."
How about the "fact" that every cablephile knows: it takes a pound-of-metal connector to get the signal to the speaker post. But, the best jumper for bi-wire posts is a piece of copper foil that barely makes contact. Huh? Let's talk about things we can pin a tail on and leave alchemy to the alchemists.
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Whut Fred sez. [message #1314 is a reply to message #1311] |
Mon, 21 February 2005 09:08 |
Poindexter
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Where do you find this Royal Cable speaker wire, Bill? I went Googling and only found computer connectors. Poinz
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