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Buying a turntable [message #12659] Sat, 03 December 2005 11:30 Go to next message
Allan is currently offline  Allan
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I need to get a turntable with a buit in pre amp so i can copy my LP's to CD via my PC. I have looked around and found several which look similar, does anyone have any adice which is the best.

Pioneer PL-990, Sony PS-LX250H, Sony PS-J20S, Bush MMT1.

Any advice welcome.

Thanks

Al

Re: Buying a turntable [message #12660 is a reply to message #12659] Sat, 03 December 2005 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Whats a Bush MMT?

Re: Buying a turntable [message #12661 is a reply to message #12660] Sat, 03 December 2005 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Allan is currently offline  Allan
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It's a Bush turntable - model MMT1

Re: Buying a turntable [message #12663 is a reply to message #12661] Sat, 03 December 2005 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Who makes it?

Re: Buying a turntable [message #12664 is a reply to message #12659] Sat, 03 December 2005 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whya built-in phono preamp?

The -- wait a minute-- Haffler or something "bugle" is supposed
to be the current fave.

For transferring vinyl to cd a PC magazine had an article
about a specialty phono preamp in the reasonable price
range for that application. I'm spinning all this off the
top of my head. The "bugle is in an AudioXpress i can look up.
Warning: the Bugle is sold as a kit and the company has a few flavors.

For turntables check out Ebay: a Thorens is always nice.


Here in this forum (from way back when) there is a turntable
kit with an acrylic platen-- just right for modding.


It depends on how much you want to do with this: old style heavy
aluminum turntables are better than new flyweight ones IMHO.


Turntable modding has some bewts, mostly I think made by
Europeans. An example of that is in these threads as well.
maybe Wayne can help with some of this.

Lastly, don't go to Ebay first, even where I am they have
a resale shop with Reel to Reel Teac Sony and Pionner decks
plus turntables that have been rebuilt to working condition.
The place that's here in town has the reasle turntable sin their
resale record shop. So those are good to check out.


I did some vinyl with a turntable somebody gave me. I bought a fresh
Grado cartridge for it and some of those cute little headshell leads.


In this forum there's also stuff about "the sandbox" turntable
isolation system. The topic is pretty well covered here.


I'll look up that stuff if you have interest.

Re: Buying a turntable-- I found one of the links [message #12665 is a reply to message #12664] Sun, 04 December 2005 00:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hagerman Bugle


Re: Buying a turntable [message #12667 is a reply to message #12664] Sun, 04 December 2005 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think he needs a built in Phono-stage because he is going directly into the PC and doesn't want to have to route through an outboard phono stage. Is that correct; Allan?
I get the impression he doesn't want to build his own from his post. Also the tables he mentions are very inexpensive which would lead me to believe he probably won't be going for a 500 or 600$ Thorens. But maybe I'm wrong.
The Hagtech come's in around 150$ once you mount it in an enclosure and that requires some work and electrical knowledge.
Many of the recent questions posted on this Turntable site are pretty basic; seems like guys want 150$ tables that play right into the PC.
For serious playback of vinyl that would be of value you really need to ratchet the price up above 400 or 500$ in my humble opinion.

There is one way.
A Technics SL 3300 which uses the same arm as the SL 1300. That is a very inexpensive table if bought used. Then you need a Shure M 97 ed cart which you glue the stylus onto the cartridge body with crazy glue.
Then get a 1970's reciever from the Salvation Army for 20$ and use the phono stage through the Tape out jacks. Those older recievers had pretty good phono stages and since that is all you will use then it sounds good played through your existing electronics.
Total outlay? About 150$ And it will equal most modern players and stages you can get for around 400$ or so.
Even the 200$ cheepy tables need a 75$ cartridge and a phono stage. That puts you at 400$

Re: Buying a turntable [message #12668 is a reply to message #12667] Sun, 04 December 2005 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes.


I was going to add at the end: Do the cheapest transfer you can
and then if it doesn't sound right start to add better components.


I've only really done this a few times: once from a cassette
tape sent to me from England of a phonograph record made in
the 70's. I transferred the content through a boom box to the
jacks in a small Nakamichi receiver (mini desktop) and then to
the sound card. This still worked pretty good-- as good as could
be expected for a second or third generation source.


The quality of reproduction will never be the same as the
original and so these digitizing from alternate source
routines should only be attempted for content not retrievable
some other way.


My sound wave editing program of choice in Windows is Goldwave 5.
It's shareware available free on trial. I wound up paying Chris
for a registered user version.


Re: Buying a turntable [message #12742 is a reply to message #12659] Wed, 01 February 2006 01:35 Go to previous message
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dude go get yourself a vestax portable turntable PT01 .cheap $200aus has pitch controls +/- 10% and outputs line level what more do you want. and it sounds real real nice

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