Forum: Pi Speakers
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Topic: Ten happy years with the 3pi... Time for the Pi 3 subs!
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Forum: Dungeon
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Topic: Empire
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Re: Empire [message #98501 is a reply to message #98495] |
Mon, 28 April 2025 11:20 |
Rusty
Messages: 1322 Registered: May 2018 Location: Kansas City Missouri
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You know Wayne, everything you mentioned there is the convoluted readout from our state department and lackadaisical press. It's not 'me' letting Putin off the hook. It's you letting off the hook our age old neoconservative influence in the realm of governmental policy support recommendations that underwrites our policy domestically and internationally. Our two political parties follow this nonsense as if it were like the tablets of the ten commandments.
This is why I bring up a narrow interpretation I read from your statements. The macro view I mentioned is what some very astute professional people, economists, analysts, journalists that have taken the interest and time to research the contradictions of what our government has been up to for a great long time. That have NOT had a positive impact on our longstanding good will with the rest of the world.
All you have been offering is what 'your' experiences have been with a few people in a region under conflict now. And I'm to trust you just by that.
That is so narrow of a slice of the way of the world operates as to be able to understand the big picture of things.
This thing with Panama is blown entirely out of proportion thanks to our new administration. It's too old and narrow now to accommodate larger vessels, it requires fresh water to operate that now is in short supply. And other routes are being built, (with the help of China) to circumvent the inherent downside of the aging Panama canal.
And by the way, China conducts it's infrastructure outreach without the overbearing imperialist colonizing mentality our country exhibits throughout history. They're policy is win-win. What's good for both country's.
We still hang on to the imperialist mentality of the Monroe Doctrine in Mexico, Central and South America.
The measures we should have taken all along in that region is what China shows like the golden rule for sovereign nations. Ours has been to use and abuse with impunity.
I could go back and forth with you till the cows come home about Putin and the Ukraine issue it seems. But for what I came to understand is that this conflict was underwritten as part of a longstanding effort to put the squeeze or even breakup the sovereign nation of Russia out of our asinine neocon behavior of long standing.
The historical record of it is obvious. And now our interest is in doing the same stupid pretense with China using Taiwan as the proxy. This shit never ends!
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Re: Empire [message #98502 is a reply to message #98501] |
Mon, 28 April 2025 11:39 |
Rusty
Messages: 1322 Registered: May 2018 Location: Kansas City Missouri
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A good summation of the ongoing peace negotiations with the Trump administration.
I've no doubt that our press and official government release will spin this reality into the usual gobbledygook. But this blog and others spell out the most accurate interpretation that most public has no clue to. Just read the typical western headlines and stay clueless.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/04/russia-continues-to-reject-trumps-attempt-to-freeze-the-war-in-ukraine.html#more
P.S. Sergei Lavrov is a consummate foreign minister. He was on Meet the Press Sunday. And was very articulate and accurate. Something our State Department is sorely lacking in for quite some time.
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Re: Empire [message #98503 is a reply to message #98502] |
Mon, 28 April 2025 12:10 |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18883 Registered: January 2001
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Rusty wrote:
"You know Wayne, everything you mentioned there is the convoluted readout from our state department and lackadaisical press. It's not 'me' letting Putin off the hook. It's you letting off the hook our age old neoconservative influence in the realm of governmental policy support recommendations that underwrites our policy domestically and internationally. Our two political parties follow this nonsense as if it were like the tablets of the ten commandments."
This isn't a "readout from our state department" or anywhere else. It's my own observations. I've been following Russian and Ukrainian things pretty closely since the late 1990s.
Honestly, I'm kind of like you in the sense that I don't believe a lot of what I read and hear in the press, whether in print, television or online. So I'm not biased by spin 'cause I'm not listening to spin.
My main point is this: Without taking anyone else's opinions - just using your own eyes - you can see that Russia overran and occupied Crimea and then proceeded to militarily attack Ukraine. Putin is an aggressor.
In my eyes - since I'm close with friends, some that live there, others with family there - I can see that Putin has been brutal. I consider him and those that do his violence to be terrorists.
And the truth is, most every other nation sees it this way too. It's not just American "neoconservatives" or "neoliberals" or whatever. It's not one American administration or another. It's not just the United Kingdom or France. It's practically everyone. Almost every other nation is alarmed at Putin's aggression.
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