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| Re: Repair JBL 2226H cone [message #73671 is a reply to message #73670] |
Sat, 25 August 2012 11:39   |
Silas
Messages: 12
Registered: August 2012
Location: Kirkland, WA
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| Wayne Parham wrote on Sat, 25 August 2012 09:40 |
Was the driver that sagged sold as a brand-new driver?
I'm a little bit skeptical about brand-new JBL 2226H drivers at $110.00. They're worth at least three times that and often selling for five times that much, so that's a very good deal.
Not saying it can't happen, maybe someone is just needing to liquidate. But they would have absolutely no trouble unloading new 2226H woofers at $350.00, and they'd be giving a good deal at that price beacuse they're really hard to find these days.
JBL is still not shipping 2226H drivers from the factory, and last I heard it would be October before they delivered any. That is 12 months since the last shipment.
Buying a 2226 for $110.00 and getting it reconed for $190.00 is acceptable, in my opinion. It isn't a great deal, but isn't bad either, not at all. When you are done, you are assured of having a 100% good-as-new driver.
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I was mistaken. I re-checked his "for sale" post and they were listed as in "good used condition." I'm not sure why I thought they were brand new.
I agree that it's a reasonable deal, since they are worth so much more. However, being a college student, I'm on a very limited budget with my build and I just don't have the funds allotted right now to pay for a $190 recone.
Also, what is the method by which I would know if a driver has its original cone, or at least a genuine JBL replacement? One of the other drivers he sold me is a slightly different color and I'm skeptical that it is a JBL cone.
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| Re: Repair JBL 2226H cone [message #73676 is a reply to message #73671] |
Sat, 25 August 2012 23:09 |
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Wayne Parham
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Registered: January 2001
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Some third-party replacement cones are obvious, others are pretty good copies. The only real way to know if you have a genuine JBL recone is to buy it yourself, or through a shop you trust.
If you want to try and examine what you already have, there are several things to look for. One is the basic color and texture of the cone. All JBL cones have irregular "bumps" in the paper pulp on the backside. Lots of recone kits are smooth, which is a tell-tale sign it's a third-party cone.
The shade of grey is pretty consistent, although a genuine cone in the sunlight is lighter. They also tend to have a discoloration near the surround that most aftermarket cones don't have. None of that really helps, I expect, because you'd have to compare with a known good cone side-by-side to notice this anyway.
Truly the best way to know is to measure the speaker, as all genuine JBL cones measure very consistently like the published response chart. An aftermarket cone probably won't match, and some are way off. If they weren't, we wouldn't care so much.
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| Re: Repair JBL 2226H cone [message #73677 is a reply to message #73676] |
Sun, 26 August 2012 12:15 |
Silas
Messages: 12
Registered: August 2012
Location: Kirkland, WA
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| Wayne Parham wrote on Sat, 25 August 2012 23:09 |
Some third-party replacement cones are obvious, others are pretty good copies. The only real way to know if you have a genuine JBL recone is to buy it yourself, or through a shop you trust.
If you want to try and examine what you already have, there are several things to look for. One is the basic color and texture of the cone. All JBL cones have irregular "bumps" in the paper pulp on the backside. Lots of recone kits are smooth, which is a tell-tale sign it's a third-party cone.
The shade of grey is pretty consistent, although a genuine cone in the sunlight is lighter. They also tend to have a discoloration near the surround that most aftermarket cones don't have. None of that really helps, I expect, because you'd have to compare with a known good cone side-by-side to notice this anyway.
Truly the best way to know is to measure the speaker, as all genuine JBL cones measure very consistently like the published response chart. An aftermarket cone probably won't match, and some are way off. If they weren't, we wouldn't care so much.
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Gotcha. I figured the coloration might be of interest, but doesn't the color change over time depending on the conditions it's been in? I was also looking and each cone on my three drivers says 71649 in a white stamp, which is the model number of the JBL cone. Do you think aftermarkets would be allowed to/bold enough to falsify a serial number stamp? If not, I'd say these are genuine.
Another update, I've resolved the issue with the seller and everything is hunky-dory. 
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