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]]>gofar992022-05-22T19:19:25-00:00Re: The next big thing
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Wow, Bruce, that's a slick one! Too cool!
]]>Wayne Parham2022-05-23T13:01:44-00:00Re: The next big thing
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Now that I have your attention I want to discuss my latest creation. It is an all tube headphone amplifier. Because of a happy coincidence it has two modes. Low power, about 10 milliwatts into 64 ohms. High power about 750 milliwatts into 64 ohms. Your choice. How you say? It turns out that 6SN7, 6SL7s and 6AS7s share the same pin out. Better yet there is a sweet spot in SRPP use that allows all of them to run in the same amplifier. The driver stage can be either a 6SN7 or 6SL7 with corresponding gain levels. The output SRPP can be either a 6SN7 or 6AS7. The 6SL7 just doesn't have enough current to directly power the headphones. The output is capacitive connected and there is no global negative feed back. Surprisingly, the response is rather similar regardless of the output tubes. With the phones I have (AT ATH-MSR7 and Sennheiser HD260s) the low power level is really quite sufficient. Actually a lot more than they need. The sound is clean and low distortion (see chart). The hum and noise is really low. The scope shows only tube hiss at a consistent wide band level. I grant that this is not a simple project, but I consider it one worth while if you use headphones. The power supply is really important in this build as even small levels of hum will be awful. It uses a toroid transformer available from Antek at modest cost and I used the steel cover for it. That might be unnecessary but it looks cool. The power supply is full wave with several filter sections. The last one is a FET capacitor multiplier. I used a number of poly type caps at first but had to add an additional electrolytic in one section. You can probably use all electrolytics with poly bypass capacitors and get the same results. The heaters are elevated by about 1/3 of the B+. The B+ with all 6SN7s is about 260 and is about 200 with the 6AS7s outputs. If you use the 6AS7s be aware that they have high current heaters. About 2 amps each. The difference in B+ current is from 5 ma for the 6SN7s to 65 ma for the 6AS7s. I would expect higher power output level with phones that are over 64 ohms.
DATA
6SN7/6SN7 at 64 ohms load 0.5VRMS (about 4 milliwatts)
S/N -80 dbv
20HZ distortion at 100HZ, 1KHZ, 20KHZ below 0.5%
20HZ to 20KHZ +0/-0.6db, -1.3 db at 100KHZ
6SN7/6AS7 at 64 ohms load Max output is 7 volts RMS
S/N -76 dbv
20H to 20KHZ +0/-0.7 dbv
Distortion at 1000HZ at 1 volt (15mw) 0.38%
2 volts (65mw) 0.7%
3 volts (140mw) 1.05%
4 volts (240mw) 1.2%
6 volts (560mw) 2.8%
7 volts (760mw) 3.7%
NOTES
All distortion measurements made on a HP Distortion Analyzer
Source is a Tenma signal generator with a residual distortion level of 0.25%
This combination results in distortion values that are likely higher than indicated
The load in all cases was a non-inductive 64 ohm resistor
Signal to noise levels were obtained from a PC scope in spectral analysis mode
]]>gofar992022-06-09T19:26:11-00:00Re: The next big thing
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Dude, that's so cool! And it is a "mighty-mouse" - plenty of punch for a headphone amp!
]]>Wayne Parham2022-06-09T23:35:29-00:00Re: The next big thing
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Just a thought. Good luck.
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gofar992022-06-11T02:27:20-00:00Re: The next big thing
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]]>gofar992022-06-11T02:53:00-00:00Re: The next big thing
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gofar992022-06-25T02:54:16-00:00Re: The next big thing
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Anxious to see the new schematic. I thought the last one was simple, clean and elegant. To have improved upon it - if even only slightly - is an Nth degree thing. Super cool!
What grounding method did you use? Star? Plane? Hybrid?
]]>Wayne Parham2022-06-25T14:16:34-00:00Re: The next big thing
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As the photos show I used mostly budget audio grade poly caps for power supply filtering. The single 100uf electrolytic was necessary to get the hum down enough. I tried several other locations and various filter configurations and this worked best. The final stage is a FET capacitor multiplier. It worked best as the last filter. The heaters are raised above ground to protect the tubes.
In retrospect I would use a larger transformer when using the 6AS7s. The one specified is running at near capacity and when inside the steel case gets pretty warm. With 6SN7s it is fine. ]]>gofar992022-06-25T18:58:44-00:00Re: The next big thing
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Oh, very cool. A star ground, with placement optimized by fit and test.
Extreme excellence, as always, from OddWatt!
]]>Wayne Parham2022-06-25T21:09:06-00:00Re: The next big thing
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