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smartt2021-07-25T20:35:57-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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Strum Drum2021-07-28T18:28:12-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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You may have misinterpreted what this site is all about. It is for people that really appreciate the best sound, but don't want to spend megabucks to get it. And truly, you don't need to spend a lot of money for great sound.
There is expensive gear that's worth the extra money paid for it, but there's a lot of expensive gear out there that isn't all that great. The super-expensive gear is always inflated just to appeal to those that enjoy conspicuous-consumption for their egos.
So this site is really here for those of us that purchase items with true value, and most of it isn't crazy expensive. It isn't cheap though either - we're definitely quality-conscious - but it's not out of anyone's budget. We talk about gear here that you can afford, and that you can really hear the difference in quality.
Honestly, even those that have learned to settle with mediocre sound find a good quality high-fidelity sound system to be extremely pleasant. Good quality sound is something I would say is universally appreciated. Most everyone can hear the difference.
]]>Wayne Parham2021-07-28T21:33:26-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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Snake oil abounds and will get you if you are not careful.
]]>gofar992021-07-30T02:24:57-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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Even with limited resources, you can still buy an affordable system. And it is no sin to buy a $100,000 system if you got the cash to do so. Because I don,t have audiophile sensitive golden ears in a blind test I cannot tell if the $100,000 system is better than $20,000 system. If you can focus on the music and appreciate the music more than the sound quality you will be a lot happier.
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Rusty2021-07-31T20:53:08-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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Can you tell us about all of your diy projects? DIY is about big bang for the buck.]]>smartt2021-07-31T21:22:49-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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Then I became interested in tube gear. I found a diy kit source where I live locally. And have built several of the offerings from that source that work wonderfully with the Pi speakers I built. I think for all my diy ventures my outlay is under 5 grand. And I feel it would compete quite well with the high priced spread very adequately. I had no prior electrical and just learned woodworking on my own. I even built the shelving cabinet for the gear. It's very satisfying to look and hear the gear I put together. And have great admiration of the people that made this form of audio available to the general public and their fantastic designs. They are wizards.
Give it a try.]]>Rusty2021-07-31T21:48:18-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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Instrument/voice accuracy is the most important aspect to me as it will be a major player in determining other aspects of the music. Along with accuracy, the venue will also affect aspects.
I have found, in my experience, that the components are just as critical as the speaker and venue. The specs might look good compared to a speakers, but small variations often cover many octaves, thus their influence is large according to Rane and The RCA Radiotron Designers Handbook.
The entire system is completely my design from scratch; tube line preamplifier, tube monoblock amps, ics, speaker wires, test speakers. The DAC has had a major upgrade.
List price for my line preamplifier, monoblocks, ics is approximately $9,500 at the time. (I am retired.) I use multiple listening testing methods for checking and cross checking, ic, preamp, monoblock accuracy. That leaves the speakers, DAC, speaker wires for back and forth tweaking to obtain super accuracy.
Of course one has to remember the recording equipment is at least 50% and more of the entire electronics. As such, we have little control.
I have been enjoying the music for some time, but when I have time I still to a little tweaking, although not much to do anymore.
cheers
pos
]]>positron2021-08-02T03:55:36-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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It is good to see you here. I still own one of your SAS Audio Labs 11A preamp. One of these years I must get the upgrade for the power supply. As you know Yahoo Groups were eliminated. Your SAS Audio Labs group was gone as a result. Did you by any chance make a copy of all the posts? It would have been nice to keep all that info.]]>smartt2021-08-02T11:36:31-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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smartt wrote on Mon, 02 August 2021 06:36
positron,
It is good to see you here. I still own one of your SAS Audio Labs 11A preamp. One of these years I must get the upgrade for the power supply. As you know Yahoo Groups were eliminated. Your SAS Audio Labs group was gone as a result. Did you by any chance make a copy of all the posts? It would have been nice to keep all that info.
Hi Smartt, Good to hear from you! I sure appreciate the confidence you have in my 11A as well.
I also wish I could have kept the forum, and one mistake I made was I forgot to copy the posts. It just slipped my mind.
As you know, when I started in the audio field some 40 years ago, I started from absolute scratch, without any preconceived ideas. I hope to benefit our friends with R&D based upon actual specialized listening tests and measurements when necessary.
Cheers
pos
]]>positron2021-08-03T02:15:16-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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Your forum was a big loss, not to be able to read it. You are retired but please tell us about your V interconnect cable which is the only item you still make. Also tell us about your Schiit Audio upgraded Modi 2 mods. Do the mods also apply to the new Modi 3 plus? Since you retired SAS Audio Labs website is gone. I used the Wayback Machine to see the website. Although not for sale you had an idea for a new tube preamp. How is that project going? positron was and will always be a serious no compromise audiophile, a big bang for the buck product. Too bad he is retired.]]>smartt2021-08-03T07:30:43-00:00Re: Can you appreciate great sound?
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smartt wrote on Tue, 03 August 2021 02:30
positron,
Your forum was a big loss, not to be able to read it. You are retired but please tell us about your V interconnect cable which is the only item you still make. Also tell us about your Schiit Audio upgraded Modi 2 mods. Do the mods also apply to the new Modi 3 plus? Since you retired SAS Audio Labs website is gone. I used the Wayback Machine to see the website. Although not for sale you had an idea for a new tube preamp. How is that project going? positron was and will always be a serious no compromise audiophile, a big bang for the buck product. Too bad he is retired.
Very briefly, the "V" ic is non-shielded, 39pf/meter, and uses minimum 6n pure copper wire (99.9999%). Used from pre to low gain amp.
The Modi 2 has upgraded power supply filter and output capacitors. When tested matched Monarchy 24 tube DAC, bettered the standard Border Patrol, Denafrips Aris 2 DACs. Just slightly less spacial width than the $4k Lampizator dac. I have never investigated the Modi 3, so cannot comment.
In general, everything is important whether designing/upgrading a source, ic, pre, amp, speakers. Even speaker wire inductance and total gauge is critical to performance, especially in cone type speakers.
I hope I have not broken any rules. Please delete if I have.
pos
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gofar992021-08-09T01:59:21-00:00Re: Please delete this post.
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gofar99 wrote on Sun, 08 August 2021 20:59
Hi, As Moderator, I don't see anything that would require that as the questions and answers are generally in the realm of diy and of some value to diy prone individuals. Wayne naturally could over rule that but it is my opinion.
Thanks Go. I felt Smartt was ok, but being rather new, I just wanted to make sure I did not over reply and be out of bounds.