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audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: There is no mention of audio crafters guild. can somebody give details of the products they saw at RMAF
creator: xsb7244
date: 2006-10-30T20:03:30-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: I had not heard of them before walking in the room RMAF, they were working with Facet Audio Labs. Audio Crafters Guild was showing the new 1000 series electronics which consisted of a pre, stereo power, and monoblocks (the latter not hooked up), along with a mention that a direct/integrated amp was on the way. I have checked their website and found no mention of what I saw/heard at RMAF for some strange reason. Anyways, I thought these guys were making very good sound together. It is always hard to tell with just one system and variables to move in and out of, but I really got the sense that their was some good synergy in the way the Facet Audio Labs Banshee speakers ($4600/pr) were designed/voiced and the way the Audio Crafters Guild amps were voiced (of course, they may not appreciate the term "voiced", but lets just say everything has a personality, intended or not...). The former were all focal drivers (tweet and dual 6.5 midbass in a straight 2-way config) and a large 4" flared reflex port, the latter included an additional chassis that was the "energy pack" that adds, among other things perhaps, a bank of capacitors to improve the reserve energy potential of the amplification system, supposedly to improve dynamic range and other things... I say supposedly not because I have any doubts about the technology/application but only because I am no electronics expert. I am confident in my ears however, and I would put their room in my top ten list. The overall sound first struck me as very articulate and perhaps a bit on the lean side, but things were very smooth and very clean sounding, and even though the tonal balance seemed a bit lean to me, there was still some richness to be found in the lower octaves and the system threw a very nice soundstage. I can't remember the guys name from Audio Crafters Guild, but both he and the gentlement from Facet Audio Labs struck me as decent guys and displayed a bit of modesty while still providing what seemed to me like very st…
creator: Greggo
date: 2006-10-31T01:14:57-00:00

Forgot to mention....
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description: for those of you that were at RMAF, I was the guy walking around trying to get everyone to play me at least 2 of the following 3 songs I had on my CDs: Sermonized, Joe Sample Time and Tide, Basia Feel For You, Chaka Kahn I have been using all three on demo sessions for around 10 years now. None of them audiophile certified, but all three taken together tell me just about everything I need to know about the system at hand. I have heard them on at least 200 different hi end systems at this point in my life. This may sound a bit odd, but if the system makes these sound bad, it is either too good for me, or not good enough, meaning if your set up is so articulate and revealing of the source that these discs just aren't fun anymore, then even if it truly is a superior set up in every way, it is not practical enough for me and the wide range of music I like to listen to with my family (yes, they dig this stuff as well, I am very lucky...) I normally play Chaka Kahn last, as many systems will make the first two songs sound great, but fail to have the presence and power to cleanly rock the house with Chaka. Sometimes I think audiophiles get too caught up in the pure and polite stuff, and forget that sometime you just gotta get up and dance, and feel it from head to toe. Regards, Greg Jensen
creator: Greggo
date: 2006-10-31T01:30:15-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF - photo link
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description: AudioXSell has excellent on-line photo coverage of the show. Link below to the room Greggo is describing. Note clickable alphabetized index of rooms in the left-hand column. Audio Crafter's Guild & Facet Audio room
creator: Duke
date: 2006-10-31T03:42:05-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: thanks for the review Greggo. the website needs to be updated but it is fun and interesting to read.
creator: xsb7244
date: 2006-10-31T16:34:16-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: Hi Folks, I’m that guy from Audio Crafters Guild who Greg could not remember the name of ( ). So let me begin by saying “thank you so much” to Greg for the kind words on the Facet Audio Labs/Audio Crafters Guild room at RMAF 2006. We had a great time demo’ing the system and listening to our visitor’s music during the show, it is rewarding to know notice was taken. Mike Henry & I had a goal of demonstrating a system which provided 95% of the performance of the cost-no-object systems thick on the ground at RMAF for 20% of their cost. Greg’s awarding us a Top Ten among systems he auditioned at RMAF 2006 tends to confirm we succeeded in our goal. I finally have further details on the Audio Crafters Guild 1000 series amplifier line up at www.audiocraftersguild.com including a PDF format spec sheet. Of course I would have preferred to have this up before introducing the line at the show but the clock and the calendar have no pity so it was not to be. This was my first out of town show and I would say we underestimated the amount of work involved by at least 1/3. As an example of why you might find it more fun to visit an audio show as an attendee rather than an exhibitor after the RMAF ended circa 5PM on Sunday we took a dinner break then packing and loading the cargo van took until 2AM Monday, grabbed 7-8 hours of sleep then a 12 hour drive home. At least Denver to Tulsa does not involve crossing the Rocky Mountains, I heard of some way-too-close calls from West coast exhibitors who were driving cargo trucks over the mountains in the snow. Of course the big guns use freight forwarding services and just fly their people in/out. The wide speaker setup Greg noted was our solution to the hotel acoustics problem. With a more conventional positioning we had the big booming bass hump plaguing so many rooms. It was rather tense until Mike Henry (designer of the Banshee speakers and president of Facet Audio Labs) suggested we try moving his speakers further apart. That solved th…
creator: Norman Tracy
date: 2006-11-03T15:11:04-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: what happened to the audio crafters guild XDO DAC?
creator: xsb7244
date: 2006-11-03T23:19:16-00:00

Totally second that
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description: Got to have material you are intimately familiar with to even start evaluating a set up (not to mention room interaction variations between the demo room one's own room). -akhilesh
creator: akhilesh
date: 2006-11-04T14:11:32-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: HI Norman, DO you have your dac set up already? I'd love to hear it at some point. Haven't seen you in a while. -akhilesh
creator: akhilesh
date: 2006-11-04T14:17:13-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: Please see reply above.
creator: Norman Tracy
date: 2006-11-06T05:04:11-00:00

Re: audio crafters guild at RMAF
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description: Hi Akhilesh, For DAC update see post above. Have the Tulsa based group had any get togethers lately? After you hosted us I didn't hear about any other meet-n-listens. We ought to make it happen! happy listening Norman
creator: Norman Tracy
date: 2006-11-06T05:08:07-00:00