Posted by Mr Vinyl [ 68.212.179.15 ] on October 14, 2005 at 07:00:37:
In Reply to: Re: Ok Manual I will answer the questions you asked me here... posted by Bill Martinelli on October 13, 2005 at 22:37:45:
Hi,
Look, you have to go by fact and not fiction ok? You may feel like you are paying the whole tax burden but as has been shown the top 25% of income earners are paying 83% of all the taxes taken in. Period. That speaks for itself. Manual has talked endlessly about these "supposed" tax shelters and how the rich are screwing the middle class. He hasn't shown one ounce of proof for this theory at all. In fact I have shown just the opposite. Saying a bunch of numbers doesn't make it so. He can't paste a link to the information. Just tells us that it came from IRS.gov. Which is a huge site with many many pages and forms. I can't find any of the information he talks about. Until he does that don't take it as truth. He has also been changing the numbers left and right. First it was the rich don't pay all the taxes, then it was the rich pay a lower percentage, then it was the rich pay 5% income tax, then it was the rich pay 8% income tax, then it was the rich pay 27% income tax, then the rich somehow became only the top 400 people, now he's including state and local taxes. Please. How can you take any of this seriously.
As far as the poor collecting checks for sitting on their ass for generation after generation. I agree. The Republicans have changed some of this with welfare reform. Still more work to do.
Regarding not liking either party. Conservatism or Liberalism is a set of ideals. It's not a party. I am a conservative. I believe liberal ideas are bad for the country. I may not be completely happy with Bush but that is the man and not the party. I would take Bush over a Kerry or Democrat any day of the week. Because I may disagree with Bush on a few things but over all I agree. With a Democrat in office I may agree on a few things but over all disagree. So I vote for conservatives. Hopefully it will be a true conservative running but if not I'll take the next closest thing.
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