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Sat, 06 August 2005 08:43

roncla
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Hay , i am in total agreement. The way i see it is a seperate woofer and the low Qts driver in a small sealed cab run FR. I simmed some of the cheap Pioneer drivers and even with a Qts of .25( 15" driver) i could see an Fc around 30 Hz with a BR cab. Just bi amp and roll off the sub/woofer at a good XO point and there ya have it. A very simple cab, but will require bi amping for good performance. Having run several tests i still find that the Qts of the woofer/sub should be close to the Qts of the FR ( OK , lets call it wide band) driver. The SPL of the 15" was the same as the 206e and paper cone , so it should( that word again) be a very good match and a simple build.
I believe the main reason i got into BLHs in the first place was the technical challenge and just to be different. The only reason i am not a fan of such designs as the Basszilla is the large footprint and the required XO electronics. IMHO a properly designed sealed cab for the wide band (designed for 150-200 hz roll in) is the way to go.( at this moment in space and time)
ron

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		Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Bob Brines on Tue, 26 July 2005 07:25
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Martin on Tue, 26 July 2005 10:33
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 26 July 2005 14:25
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Bob Brines on Tue, 26 July 2005 15:29
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Manualblock on Tue, 26 July 2005 18:58
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 26 July 2005 22:55
		Cone resonances. By: Mike.e on Sun, 31 July 2005 23:20
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Tue, 26 July 2005 23:53
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Tue, 26 July 2005 12:14
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Martin on Tue, 26 July 2005 12:44
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Tue, 26 July 2005 23:46
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Ozzy on Tue, 26 July 2005 17:03
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Tue, 26 July 2005 23:39
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: zobsky on Wed, 27 July 2005 21:36
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Bob Brines on Thu, 28 July 2005 05:42
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: zobsky on Thu, 28 July 2005 12:18
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Thu, 28 July 2005 08:14
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: roncla on Sat, 30 July 2005 11:02
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Sun, 31 July 2005 07:30
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: roncla on Tue, 26 July 2005 16:01
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: roncla on Tue, 26 July 2005 16:08
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Ed Schilling on Thu, 28 July 2005 12:47
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 28 July 2005 13:32
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Ed Schilling on Thu, 28 July 2005 15:21
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Thu, 28 July 2005 22:58
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: FredT on Fri, 29 July 2005 05:43
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Kim Schultz on Fri, 29 July 2005 00:40
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: JLM on Fri, 29 July 2005 03:38
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Martin on Sun, 31 July 2005 14:56
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Ed Schilling on Mon, 01 August 2005 19:58
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Martin on Tue, 02 August 2005 18:22
		Thank you Martin.....page 1 By: Ed Schilling on Tue, 02 August 2005 18:51
		.page 2 By: Ed Schilling on Tue, 02 August 2005 20:10
		my tone.... By: Ed Schilling on Wed, 03 August 2005 07:43
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: roncla on Sun, 07 August 2005 07:34
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Regal on Thu, 28 July 2005 17:46
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: JLM on Fri, 29 July 2005 04:42
		You obviously haven't heard a pair of Carolina Audio speakers. By: GTF on Sat, 30 July 2005 07:22
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: bacobits on Sat, 30 July 2005 07:59
		hornets nest By: hurdy_gurdyman on Tue, 02 August 2005 09:49
		Re: hornets nest By: Manualblock on Tue, 02 August 2005 12:15
		Re: hornets nest By: hurdy_gurdyman on Tue, 02 August 2005 14:29
		Re: hornets nest By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 02 August 2005 15:43
		Re: hornets nest By: Manualblock on Tue, 02 August 2005 18:06
		Re: hornets nest By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 02 August 2005 20:41
		Re: hornets nest By: hurdy_gurdyman on Tue, 02 August 2005 20:58
		Re: hornets nest By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 03 August 2005 01:29
		Re: hornets nest By: hurdy_gurdyman on Wed, 03 August 2005 07:33
		Re: hornets nest By: Manualblock on Wed, 03 August 2005 08:16
		Re: hornets nest By: hurdy_gurdyman on Wed, 03 August 2005 09:08
		SOme comments on this thread By: akhilesh on Thu, 04 August 2005 11:35
		Re: SOme comments on this thread By: Manualblock on Thu, 04 August 2005 16:20
		Re: SOme comments on this thread By: akhilesh on Fri, 05 August 2005 07:40
		Re: SOme comments on this thread By: Martin on Thu, 04 August 2005 17:58
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Retsel on Wed, 03 August 2005 13:58
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Thu, 04 August 2005 11:24
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Retsel on Thu, 04 August 2005 12:09
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Thu, 04 August 2005 15:47
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: hurdy_gurdyman on Thu, 04 August 2005 21:33
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Fri, 05 August 2005 07:39
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Retsel on Fri, 05 August 2005 09:13
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Martin on Thu, 04 August 2005 18:08
		a good question By: Ed Schilling on Fri, 05 August 2005 00:14
		Re: a good question By: roncla on Fri, 05 August 2005 05:25
		Thank You, Ron By: Ed Schilling on Fri, 05 August 2005 12:53
		Re: Thank You, Ron By: roncla on Fri, 05 August 2005 13:49
		Re: Thank You, Ron By: roncla on Fri, 05 August 2005 13:58
		Re: a good question By: Martin on Fri, 05 August 2005 05:26
		Re: a good question By: roncla on Fri, 05 August 2005 05:51
		Re: a good question By: JLM on Sat, 06 August 2005 08:04
		Re: a good question By: roncla on Sat, 06 August 2005 08:43
		Re: a good question By: akhilesh on Fri, 05 August 2005 12:36
		Re: a good question By: Ed Schilling on Fri, 05 August 2005 22:48
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: akhilesh on Fri, 05 August 2005 07:39
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Retsel on Fri, 05 August 2005 08:56
		Ok Boys, read this........ By: Ed Schilling on Sat, 06 August 2005 12:02
		Re: Ok Boys, read this........ By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 07 August 2005 03:03
		Re: Ok Boys, read this........ By: Ed Schilling on Sun, 07 August 2005 08:31
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Greg B on Sat, 06 August 2005 12:15
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Ed Schilling on Sat, 06 August 2005 12:27
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Greg B on Sat, 06 August 2005 14:44
		10-4 ! By: Ed Schilling on Sat, 06 August 2005 14:53
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 07 August 2005 03:01
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: bob pace on Sun, 07 August 2005 07:06
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 07 August 2005 07:57
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: bob pace on Sun, 07 August 2005 13:06
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 07 August 2005 13:59
		Re: Why won't a single driver speaker do metal? By: hurdy_gurdyman on Sun, 07 August 2005 14:50
		Further thoughts on peaks and some clarifying questions By: akhilesh on Mon, 08 August 2005 01:42
		Re: Further thoughts on peaks and some clarifying questions By: bob pace on Thu, 11 August 2005 13:47
		Maximum SPL charts By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 12 September 2005 06:02

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