Re: Piffle [message #2888 is a reply to message #2874] |
Sun, 26 March 2006 13:38 |
lon
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We have old time radio around ehre that I think public radio gets on satellite feed. So I'm hearing the radio shows I was not old enough to hear but remember the tv show from real time. There are discussions about lots of things on the net... more piffle than is conceivable. I picked a topic like this that I have a basic interest in not so much because I can do a lot of building but because I have an interest in the design process-- as art and creativity. Sort of like kustom kars or motorcycles. These last two are 'guy things' I have no personal experience with at all. But the low rider thing fascinates me as an artistic expression. Something similar in the way of a group build is being done on the Full Range Driver forum with a cnc operator using the designs of an audio engineer. Women would like this stuff more if you took out of context and put it on display in an art gallery. I sort of had this experience at a show at the Calatrava-designed new space for the Milwaukee Art Museum. We saw a display of craftsman projects in wood and at that point I could expound on the work of James Krenov and sound like a big shot.
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Re: Piffle [message #2889 is a reply to message #2885] |
Sun, 26 March 2006 13:39 |
Manualblock
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I think you are being to hard on yourself; your hearing is mostlikely fine. Just because a guy builds something and then puts up a website doesn't neccessarily mean he knows anything. I wrote a half dozen posts on SD speakers a while back because there was a small gathering here of guys who follow that line of speaker. They do some things great and some not so great. I am not a huge fan; not because they don't sound good on some recordings but because I feel they are very specific to a certain type of music. On that music they sound wonderfull. But you got to like that music enough to play it exclusively. So Why does it mean that because you are not hearing out to 18k you can't tell what sounds good? It may just be that what sounds good will sound good to everyone regardless of what their hearing is physically capable of.
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Re: Piffle [message #2891 is a reply to message #2889] |
Sun, 26 March 2006 13:51 |
lon
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I very well may be able to hear out to those higher frequencies... my guess is that I can but it's just a guess.What are those ringing sounds that computer processors make? I can't keep a tube here because I will hear it _going_ all the time. And more than I few folks are insufferable to listen to on the talk radio-- things I never used to listen to but now that streaming audio is available I have been able to find more quality discussion OTOH I can listen to a table radio and be, you know, _happy_ if something good is playing.
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Re: Piffle [message #2892 is a reply to message #2887] |
Sun, 26 March 2006 13:55 |
MWG
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Yours are the B model. In the A's the vent is around the ends of the horn. Which isn't as efficient as the vents on yours. You have to take what I say with a dose of salt. I've had mine since 1966. I always wanted a pair of model 19's until I talked to a man who has lots of Altec speakers and he said "keep the Vals. They sound better than 19's" Maybe he's right I don't know.
If you like the sound of them than none of the newer tower looking things can compare sound wise. They'll be more "accurate" for sure but not anywhere near as musical. I did dampen my horns with automotive dampening material so I can run the attenuation knobs closer to null
This is not to offend any of the speaker builders here. I'm just relating what I like and it doen't make a pinch of difference in the overall scheme of things.
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Re: Piffle [message #2893 is a reply to message #2890] |
Sun, 26 March 2006 14:04 |
lon
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Yes, Somewhat related is the fact that I started to follow the building forums closely (after having done kits previously over a period of 20-30 years) was because I was looking for low poer designs that would make the digital music I had found (concert jazz band and and other things) sound... _adequate_ over what is is normally sold as computer speakers. I've never owned any computer speakers. I build from scratch so I followed the directions for hooking up the sound card to a small receiver I had which was a Nakamichi at the time. The Nak was very small and had it;s own set of mini 2 way speakers which-- like all 2 way minispeakers-- weren't much count.
The first advice I got with this arrangement was to cut out the backs of the minis-- something that wouldn't occur to me. Talk about the Fostex line was going pretty well then as it still does and Madisound is not very far away for shipping so I got a pair of FE127e's. My first mod was dropping in the Fostex to the mini cabs with the backs cut off. A happy coincidence was that I could put the fronts back on and the molded plastic formed a wave guide for the single Fostex on the box. I used a cork to plug up the port and left the 25 cent tweeter in there for seal. That setup lasted me quite while.
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